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  When did the WT say that homosexual extramarital affairs were not grounds for divorce?

  by doubtful in

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  i've heard it said that the watchtower printed an official stance on what qualifies as "adultery" at one point in the 1970s??

  they said that a woman was not free to divorce her husband if her husband had sex with another man or with an animal, as such sexual relations did not constitute "becoming one flesh"... apparently vaginal intercourse is the only means of fusing two human bodies together.... what watchtower is such a doctrine found in?

  is it in the wt cd-rom?

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  Great topic. Thanks!
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  Diary of an Ex-Mormon- Must see for all Jw's still on the fence.

  by whereami in

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  2. beliefs

  hear the story of a young teenager indoctrinated into the mormon church and culture, growing to a man who would one day reject everything he'd been taught to believe.

  the similarities to the jw's are uncanny.. .

  stan's full story can be found in written form at:http://www.exmormon.org/whylft79.htm.

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  Excellent video!! And indeed eerily similar feelings to doubting JWs.
  I would just like to highlight a very powerful thing this man mentioned in the video. He said, "Free the mind, and the @€€ will follow." Words to remember.

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  "The Last Popes of the Watchtower"

  by leavingwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just learned of this new book at the free minds store.

  i purchased a copy and i'm enjoying it.. .

  "for a 1218-page pdf file of the watchtower quotes being made currently that are used to control the masses, download the brand new and very large compendiary, anonymously written, the last popes of the watchtower.

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  Crisis of Conscience

  That last quote from the 2/1/96 Watchtower is interesting. It says to "cut off anything that feeds such doubts".

  Funny part is, how many here on this site, and even others not participating here, had their doubts begin while engaged in so called spiritual activity, with absolutely no contact to apostate literature or even their thoughts?

  I am one of those whose doubts began particularly while serving at Bethel. That was over 10 years ago. Apparently, I should've taken that advice and cut myself off from the org then, as this was the source of my doubts.

  But I digress. Thank you freeminds for providing this compilation. I hope it will be a source of help to many, if not all, that read it.

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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 04-24-2011 WT Study (RIGHTEOUSNESS)

  by blondie in

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  1. what will help us to follow the tracks of righteousness?.

  3. how can we learn more about gods righteousness?.

  conform???.

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  Thanks Blondie, especially for the "extra" research that provided the constant flip-flops we are used to, but may not have realized.

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  interesting for gb/anointed do they know they wrote this since the believe thier imperfect men running the org. but not according to this tidbit

  by TheLoveDoctor in

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  so it can be seen that a person does not become alive from gods standpoint until such time as he is free from condemnation resulting from sinfulness.

  in the case of those who will rule with jesus christ, jehovah god, on the basis of his sons sacrifice, declares them righteous and thus views them as being perfect, without sin, while yet in the flesh on earth.

  (rom.

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  Interesting. No wonder they never make mistakes! Oh wait, there was that time...................... and also that........................... Ah! Too many to list.

  Thanks for another BS quote from the "chosen" ones.

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  HBO: Game of Thrones

  by leavingwt in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i haven't read the wildly popular books, but i've found the new hbo television series, game of thrones to be quite entertaining.

  so far, two episodes have aired, and i think i'm hooked.

  there are more than a few interesting characters, both good, bad and in between.

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  My brother in law just told me about this show. I'm too heavily involved in Dexter and Spartacus right now to start another show. But this is one to add to the list IMO. Thanks LWT!

  Episode 1 seems to be working at this link - http://mobilevids.org/gameofthrones.html

  If it doesn't work, try mobilevids.org and search under the TV section.

  Hope that can help someone.

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  Pangs of Conscience - June 2011 KM

  by dozy in

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  2. friends

  there is an article in the latest kingdom ministry about counting time spent in the ministry.

  one comment surprised me - it says that counting time wrongly can lead to "pangs of conscience".

  a bit of an ott expression , i can't help thinking.. the only pangs the local pioneers are concerned about here are hunger pangs as they head to dunkin donuts for a 40 minute "break".

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  @ Lunatic Faith - LOL But I kid you not. I knew a pioneer during the 90hr times that confessed to actually doing that. I wondered why it seemed so easy for her. And yet here I struggled to get my time as a pioneer. I was never able to get my conscience to allow me to do it at the time. Now, I just think I would.

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  How did you feel when the expression "by extension" was used when discussing scriptures?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  2. beliefs

  i really had a hard time accepting certain scriptures as being an "extension" to modern-day jw's.

  examples:.

  ip-2 cp6 pg87 paragraph 87: "for gods exiled people in babylon, those words are an assurance that the promised land will not remain desolate.

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  Crisis of Conscience

  This is how I currently feel about that expression. Hope that helps.

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  What will they say then?

  by MrFreeze in

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  this is just hypothetical.

  let's say that the wt never dissolves.

  it continues in existence until the year 2914. what do you think they'd be saying about 1914 and armageddon being just around the corner then?.

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  GB 10.0 in the house!! He-ey! And still overlapping the generations like a mo-fo!

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  June 1st public WT - Does God Have an Organization?

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anyone read this yet?

  more of the same cheerleading and self-worship of the jw organization.. on page 14, they even pull a few quotes from the bible, but not their own!

  that of course is because when freddy was writing his version of the bible, he forgot to put "organization" into the text, so now they pull a few quotes from these sources to justify worship of "organization!.

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  Marked, because of Blondie's awesome research. Thanks!

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